AIG is having money troubles. If you get caught in a lie you sweep it under the rug and try to hope that no ones catches you. You are proving the adage: A little knowledge is very dangerous.. Also, the real numbers in PFS are out of 100 new reps, 83 will quit, 15 will become decent part-time producers, and 2 will become RVPs. Men are more expensive than women since the women live longer than men. I have seen the fact that my friend complained about it. I have not hired people since they ahve bad mouth their past employers. I am not getting the service I deserve, they cant find my plan, and have no record of it. This field is constantly changing. It is showing you have limited vocabulary yourself.) I joined PFS to help people expose the evils of Cash Value and to educate people so they wouldnt retire broke. Anyway, it is interesting that Primericans are all about price when putting their term insurance up against cash-value, but when *others* (such as myself), compete against *them* with cheaper/better term policies, THEN all of the sudden its about price is only an issue in the absence of value B.S. But in his business this is perfectly ok. Michael, I do hope this is short enough for your attention span. You might have to miss your TV show for that night but then it might open your eyes. -. Something else I wonder about. By age 60 you should have most of your nest egg needed to live on. Do some research. That is definitely not a team driven position. Do you work for a Contractor in the Business of Ac Repair? The price I was quoting was for a full service person. How many people build many strong legs? Since the License can be placed with Primerica or with someone else, that is the reason why they have problems. And you will always be worried about losing clients to someone with a better price. Twisting is when you take one policy and use the money in it to buy another new policy. Again, whatever you can do in PFS, you can do better on the outside. I know I would not want to have to do, 6,000 dollars in premium and barely breaking even. Ive heard it many times. Tom does not appear to have any interest on anything other than his opinion. What do you offer your people, pay all your licensing fees for all the licenses, and then you can make money. There were several proofs of this on the boards. We are a company that SEARCHES for these families and pushes to help them. Respectfully, I really dont care what you think. So You are losing the logic game here. Brother means equal, in many cultures. They work hard at it EVERYDAY. So much for the heart and soul. The user should be at a different level and the data should be present at some other level. This investment includes commissions you may receive. No, it only means that we are different. James it right, its about choice for the client, and freedom for the Agent. Permanent coverage is for a permanent event. But this is typical of someone losing the battle. Keep posting please so everyone can see that your village is looking for you. Im not a hater or complainer (im sure my post views me differently lol), as long as you do right by people and its truemore power to you, honest. 3)A big attraction to Primerica for clients and reps is that it gives it clients and reps access to high yielding emergency fund accounts and investment grade vehicles for as little as $25/month making it theoretically possible for anyone to invest regardless of their economic situation. You recruit to build your organization. Remember before you answer your an independent contractor with PFS, not an employee. 400-500and the other has made way less than that, and he has been in it for anout 11 months. I can respect that and if I run into one of his clients he will lose. You remind me of many people who blame everyone else for their failures. Well Since you missed the big part, let me show you. He is normally not that way, so I kind of wonder if maybe he was coached to say that. I am not here to rag on PFS. ______________________________. It is like a pyramid scheme, except that it is different. There is a limited choice of life insurance options and rates are reportedly high. It may not be the best option for what that customer is looking for or needs. You are just a person who could not get past the price objection. They did it to take money from the clients. Forgive me for asking, perhaps you clearly stated this elsewhere, but where should I e-mail to discuss things further and more in-depth? The list is endless. On the plus side, when we request accounts moved over, their processing time is faster than most Does Michael change his spots? Can you tell the difference between a good term and a bad term policy? By doing so, Data Independence can be achieved. Primerica Life, in its discretion, may also pay, or arrange for the payment of, advances to you. Please go hide, but you are making it so easy fro Primerica to repalce your policy. The only problem was that he got calls and letters asking him to convert to permanent insurance. Now with it, I can get a portion of my life insurance before I die if I need it ( and it is not a loan with interest penalties.). Well the opportunity is a way to get out of debt faster. Cost is too much. HE CHOSE to make a higher commission off his own familyinstead of doing the best possible practical thing for them.so you wonder why go with Primerica? The problem is we have gotten used to settling, but I think that will change soon. It must be great being TOM. ANd those that bought made lots of money. Michael just didnt have the drive. ****You have no clue whats available outside of PFS. I cannot apologize for him by I can apologize for me for getting off track. Either that you chose to ignore the answer and claim I did not answer it, Which one is it Michael? It has gone into a direction that is not positive. They work when they want, and when they do not want to. And after training is done, the RVP or Regional Leader will go with them until they feel comfortable, and they do not get any part of the sale. Do PFS agents talk to their clients about the potential of a Senior Settlement? They say it is a waste of money. Please read any book from Suze Orman or Dave Ramsey or any competent adviser, and you will see the truth. As a Primerica agent if your client showed you this what would you say? You are not trust worthy. Given the facts and allowing people to make their own decision I have yet to have anyone choose Primerica. So that he does nto get hate calls, I will not give out the name and number, but then again, you might think I am a RVP since I talked to them too, Michael. A couple things he failed to mention. What if you client gets cancer or do have insurance for that . (Over 1.5 times) Maybe you need the post again. Wall Street Journal said that a couple of years ago. Yet now, he does what he wants, when he wants. I dont know why he is confused, as I have been very clear about who I am. I do hope you are writing this down, because it seems from this layman you are doing more of a disservice than any service. Sometime the client has no home. Now since both have the same licenses and have to follow the same rules of Education, why woudl anyone go to a person who may not have his best interest at heart when he makes the call. Why 40% on 6 months death window when I can do 50% or 250K (lowest of the two) on a 12 month death window? I know you know everything. It is cheaper and better to go to the work place and get it. Michael you are reminding me of the Humphreys. Let them make the decision if it right for them. If I want to do well I am responsible for my own actions. -. Pulling it from a Insurance website is not a good source. ANd it only allows you to be called an adviser. When I joined this blog my real intentions were to only share my experiences with PFS and not be negative with anyone or any company. But a salary cost the company money. 5. I get to see him every 18 months. Are you Life Insurance Licensed? Some people just dont like the point of paying for Term and not getting anything in return except coverage. Which one is it? No. However, NO IBA WAS SIGNED OR EVEN FILLED OUT AND NO MONEY WAS SUBMITTED (@ the time it was $199.) I am having people contact me and wanting to compare what I can offer compard to what Primerica can offer them. But if you can get the service of the Ritz, while paying middle ground, why would you not? Again you are going to price. You actually answered why PFS didnt work for you and i appreciate you did b/c with your layout of eventsthere could be some validity to your conclusions. What do you think whole life agents would have told him. If someone is interested that may e-mail me and I will go into details. If you cant back up your post with facts then get off the ROP kick. Tom at certain years depending on the policy a client How many 80 years olds do you know that are working. The the Hectors, or the other names you use. Personally I only stay in 4 to 5 star hotels. Yes she did. Sounds like another Insurance Company Scam like Cash value, to me. WHy . And You are not? Because they cant. Second, If I wanted a quality car, I would get a quality car. Please tell me why it is fake to be in a MLM? Somebody has to drive the bus, as long as its not me. Are the policies the same for Me and Women? liek. Why do they charge for brochures? How do I know, I am licensed in many of these areas and scheduled to take the exam for one in the next 4 weeks. Here we go with cheaper policies again. Your clients must not know what to value. . UL, VUL, whole life, final expense, These are all cash value insurance, with the exception of final expense. 2. Since they do offer management in the form or doing annual check ups, and doing adjustments accordingly, why do you think they do not do it? You get better training, and more support. I started with Northwestern Mutual and I didnt have a clue about finances. For all those reading, here is my 2-cents regarding tom. By the way are your policies fully convertible and guaranteed? From what I understand pFS doesnt require anyone to purchase their products, so wouldnt it be in your best interest to find the best policy for your individual needs? Well Since I am not an agent, but the last time I talked about it to my agent a year or so ago, he pulled an article from an outside source saying that it is a waste of money. You know now you have to join Primerica. Old Saying If you tell a lie a thousands times, it becomes a truth! Hitler proved this. Primericas policy is not available to age 90. I posted the truth from my experience and belief. A Hammer can be a sales tool. So basic economics say that the companies you work for, either pay to much and will ahve to short cut on services, or are possibly going out of business. Return of Premium is a waste of money.Here is why: It cost more than term, you have to pay for 30 years to get the money, the money that you give them has depreciated over the 30 years. There are five year and ten year term. Ive had many families tell me no thanks after trying to recruit them as many of you put it. If youd rather email me you can @ [emailprotected] I also gave them new agents from my recruits. But you ignore it. Then they try to get those people to take out a loan or buy some investment thats supposed to help them clear up debt. i used primerica to get my licenses, then switched to a different business model. Do you think that everyone knows how much it cost monthly to get in a mutual fund? What option is there to give a client with one term product which is The RVP contract is about Primerica procedures. @James: You in general basically said Primerica must be MLM in all its glory b/c its massively recruiting. And fixed ones are only good for lump sums that you do not want to beat inflation not just keep up with it. Let us look at all those companies that they say tehy are their competition. Do you guys ever wonder why the guarantees on some products may not be a full guarantee? I know the agent that sold the policy did not do the complete job. But in Financial services it is even more important. Did you forget? IF you think it is perfectly logical to charge for something in a policy, and then charge someone for using what they already paid for, you definitely need to hide the hoods and masks from your clients. Michael said an interest only loans, which is great for people wanting to flip the house, but then again that is why a shack cost 1.2 million in Orange County. What about that car you traded in for the new one, do you still list it on your insurance, and pay more? An example of this is AIG. It seems Michael will only approach in areas that he thinks he is right. But I am diverging, sorry. Remember nothing was going to happen to him was he walks with a walker and drives a little rascal. SESAME STREET ECONOMICS 1 If you are only licensed as a life insurance agent and a mutual funds representative and you believe you can take a wholestic financial planning approach you are wrong. Giving up 5 or 6 sales to my trainer, whats up with that? I will not go into that. Point is, anyone with the UNDERSTANDING and common sense to undestand that more goes into a business that having a name and a goal to make money can figure out Primerica and make it work. Tom to answer your questions, do you work for a Contractor in the Business of Ac Repair? >> i have a cousing who help me to get in to these bussiness, which i really do not like, he explained me only how could i make a lot of money. Mass Mutual We are also paid overrides from those recruits that we hire into our business and field train. This will limit your use of your E and O insurance, along with limiting the damage to others. You have to give up a leg (your MOST productive team) to become an RVP . The market that Primerica serves. You are comparing the small motel with 10 rooms, to the Ritz Carleton. As for your thinking, I am not to sure about it. The contract levels depend upon the amount of business the producer does and the size of the agency. The contract rate dictates the percentage earn Since this is about Opportunity please stop selling, or you will prove that the only reason why you are here is because you cant make it on you own without stealing from others. That is a cost. to address some of the negatives that are repeated thousands of times on the net. Can you do better, possibly. I know of some families like that from church, but thats not the place to refer/recruit. . My costs are 149 for the license from the state DOI, 250 for the L & H class, 250 for E & O insurance and 100 for the state test. Options are great. When I first was being recruited by Primerica, I was led to believe that I was an owner of my own business. Not everyone is as enlightened as you are, and most people need help. But you are an Insurance salesperson, not a financial coach. That saidtheres no company in the regulated USA who would last 31 years in business if they had bad/illegal/take advantage of consumers type business practices. Posted On: August 7, 2008 by Page Perry LLC No. Why would an agent offer term insurance? But your policies lack value. I teach my sales staff to focus on the value. You say .. On top of it, most people that read this are Christian. that woudl not surprise me. I am curious, why are you bringing in Citi. Key Insurance is bad too. now it is starting to sound like Andy Griffith show . The numbers speak volumes in Primericatoo many people have become wildly successful in PFS to dismiss its validity. -. Now how much did he make on that visit? He has a knack of twisting the facts. We can all do it and if I can save the client $30 a month on life insurance costs then that is an extra $30 I can put away for their retirement. Who likes to see the person who does what he is supposed get a head? And that is how they do it since they know they will make 15 times the money on a cash value policy, why not sell it at a lost. I am curious when do you tell your clients to sell their properties, when it is in the dumps, or when it is worth a lot of money? This is especially true with smokers. ***Look at the cost and the difference in coverage amounts..Same cost with a $75,000 spread. I am sure many of you could relate who have families and friends who joined. You can not change companies because of your heath and if you are with PFS your policy ends at age 70 unless you accept an ART which you would need to run a quote to see what the premiums would be. You are the one who does not get it. Ive done corporate recruiting and guess what, not everyone wants to change thier life to a MLM anyone with a pulse can be a client life style, and believe me a salary PLUS commission is for the talented and truly competent; Anyone can go grab a commission only job at any financial services competitor. the dream is not to use it. I am an independent part-time non-captive licensed agent. Most sales are done because of a connections. You base you decision on price, not what is best for the client. You will not have the exclusive right to sell these products and services in any territory. Whatever it is.i dont care because i personally.AM MOTIVATED. If by chance you come across a policy it would be in your best interest to be able to notice how it is designed. The people I deal with most of the time, wouldnt earn anyone a $7,000 commission no matter what product you were selling. This restriction will continue to apply after termination of this Agreement for only two (2) years. You dont seem so educated to me. It clear to see that Tom does not master excellent communicational skills. Every time we ask him he says, Im just a client. Do you think Jesus would be selling something to people that was not good for them? It is the same as an independent as it is at PFS. It is one of the only parts that has not cost them millions of dollars in the last 2 years. 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