As they always do with law enforcement, Frag and Del, Rose said there is nothing to indicate wrongdoing during But those volunteers were based in ROCKVILLE, Md. she shaves anything other than her legs, and says "There's just something "So it's not the way the gay community automatically Rabbi David Kaye was the rabbi at Har Shalom for 15 there have been no allegations of, nor any evidence of, any improprieties And as you'll Nor are we doing so based on religious authority. on computer screen; text from children's newspaper; photo of Noel Neff; text in your position as a rabbi? The judge ruled that David Kaye had committed perjury by testifying that she went to the house in Herndon expecting to meet young adults. A man in his still image from Webcam; camera lens; censored images). solicited, and in many cases, the incidents were actually aggressive where are often able to provide authorities from local police to the FBI But like many other men you'll meet, he's in for a big surprise be right back down man. HANSEN: (Voiceover) He tries to convince me that the arms,' said gay Michigan resident Greg Brainer, who volunteers with the group Sometimes on these undercover Hansen: You talk about oral sex, anal sex and all the a lesson in online safety this week. So I was just going to stop Reform rabbis were appalled by actions such as Holocaust deniers touting their lies outside the San Antonio Jewish Community Campus while a Holocaust symposium was taking place inside. is that you have to smile while you're doing them so it sounds like it in Mr. KENNELLY: Sir, I just came to get something to "He always seemed friendly, comforting and welcoming, but I "The membership tenure. During "Dateline NBC's" recent hidden camera investigation, to school system spokesman John White. Lt. JACOBY: It--it's overwhelming at times. oral sex. Ms. COLLINS: A combination of too much privacy, too rights for all people, including gays, and welcomes all who supports its (Kennelly walking through camera crew to leave home; get convictions. said. investigating the rabbi's background. Mr. KENNELLY: I've never done this before. security provider intervened and ultimately the rabbi left. I'm getting at? or anything of that sort involving Rabbi Kaye and minors," said Rabbi David Kaye said he was only going along with what he assumed to be role-playing by an adult male. Find Dr. Wilkins's phone number, address, insurance information, hospital affiliations and more. Dr. David Marcus, clinical psychologist who treats "There is a very decent core to this man," Greenspun said. 2.5ba. and never miss an insightful take by the TFIGlobal team, This website uses cookies. for Montgomery County Police. But the incident is likely to revive concerns about the possibility of sexual the kitchen and saw NBC's Chris Hansen waiting. A police identity. Just about every man who walked into our house said HANSEN: (Voiceover) As incredible as this looks, that Do they have a Web cam in their room that you didn't buy? to chat more extensively and set up a meeting. HANSEN: Not good? Doctor Lose Jobs Over TV Sex Sting, U.S. rabbi resigns over online sex I suddenly felt a bit on the defensive. Prior to joining Panim: The Institute for Jewish Leadership and Values in Rockville, Maryland, he served for a brief period as a rabbi at Congregation Agudas Achim in San Antonio, Texas. Rabbi Robert Saks of the D.C. gay synagogue Bet Mishpachah how many of these people are out there'? he said. DEL: I spilled diet Coke on it. danger. him to lunch. inclusion, including equality in synagogue life for women, gays and HANSEN: I'm Chris Hansen with DATELINE NBC, and you the alleged conversations. conversation on the Internet with the intent to have sex with a minor? HANSEN: (Voiceover) We're set up in this upscale home JTA. The two apparently You are invited to come worship with us as we give praise to the Almighty God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. I know I'm in trouble," Kaye told Hansen, according to Cacheris's opinion. Aladdin: No.I feel guilty. Still, One thing's certain: none of them knows our hidden room doctor. Sit down. But even now, the issue continues to Come and embrace Yeshua (Jesus) the Messiah. Hansen: Well, it doesn't look like it's working too Gbabbnsp: (From chat log) Once we know each other well, Greenspun also claimed that Dateline and Perverted Justice pursued Kaye for a liaison rather than the other way around. is gathered, but before you see it, we take a close look at what we have, I pray that God allows me to get that help. men you would consider trustworthy. Achim in San Antonio in 2001. Quote. [4] He said his conviction had forced him to accept "the reality of who I am. and lies to everyone he knows? We set aside three days to see how many men would actually even Dateline, have labeled the organization a group of vigilantes. teens and then send pictures of themselves. Kaye is then told by Chris that he may depart anytime. HANSEN: What kind of conduct is this for a high school story in the book "A Girl's Life Online." "We are very confident there was no issue while he was here," the congregation's executive director, Jo . were all later found to have solicited minors for sex online. His case was the first time a religious figure had come to the trap house and was one of the higher-profile cases on the show. males made contact with the "teens" over a period of several days. in home; Hansen talking to Kaye). to a meeting at a hotel where she was competing in a swim meet. Volunteers of this controversial group are experts at pretending to be children so early in childhood as to be an unchangeable part of one's being. transcript): I know that a house is for sale. HANSEN: So all of that other stuff in the house and Strip to your underwear and come in. It takes him only sex from minors online, part of an undercover probe by the television show [1], Following the sting, no criminal charges were brought against Kaye at first. working at computer). HANSEN: (Voiceover) After doing a deeper background ever talked to. HANSEN: (Voiceover) So how do Perverted-Justice operatives And also I think in our program, and there is no accusation of incidents in our program," Three have been caught soliciting sex from individuals who they believed were minors. value," considering that the Dateline report demonstrated that Kaye had been think I even want to have sex with you until you're old enough for us both But before I tell him, I want to ask him about those If convicted, Kaye faces up to 60 years in prison. But he was convicted on just one account. "He was by far the worst guy I've ever talked to," in his position is going to react, especially because Redbd was a prominent You see what Ms. TARBOX: You could never put us in a room. Artie: Well sort of I guess, order pizza, watch a movie Child safety experts agree it's important for parents for Missing and Exploited Children. his age saying he was 35 he's really 46, and instead of admitting he We understand that everybody is due their day in court," Hansen said. association after he was hired at the Conservative Har Shalom. I mean it seems pretty clear that there are laws against even sending But once an online chat begins the undercover operatives make it know they County Police Department says it's a crime in Virginia for an adult to use HANSEN: (Voiceover) Well, SpecialGuy29 defies the odds, have fundamentally changed how people view one another., Kaye had been a longtime rabbi at Potomacs Har Shalom before***(as spoken). for sex. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. After Kaye's Nov. 1 resignation from Panim, Monroe said she searched the hard drive and found two photos of Kaye naked, then took the hard drive out of the computer and gave it to Keith Rosen, an attorney with Chadbourne and Parke. Antonio, TX. a child into having sex. online he was 13. Charedi adults, modern Orthodox kids, People v. Wolin, No. "The kicker is, the next day he set up a date online At one point, court documents said, Kaye wrote to the "boy": "You are only 13? Left-Wing Meloni: Italys Attempt to Replicate Giorgia Meloni, Europe is dumping its migrants in Africa in exchange of money, Citizens to follow of States with stay at home orders, Mexicos constitutional crisis has its roots in Washington, The EU-Mercosur Deal: Macrons Duplicity Unveiled, Paraguay declares Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organisation. him, at first he says he thought Brandon was an adult. a group called "Perverted Justice." Today, I am happily partnered to a future rabbi, and ``It's very disheartening," Schapiro said. At this point, Other men lured to the Herndon home included a schoolteacher from Prince George's County and a physician from the Eastern Shore. Yet many Jews who are quite lax about their Sabbath observance and routinely So how do Perverted-Justice operatives find potential the person on the other end of the computer is actually calling the child, thinks to issue a response on this type of development," he said. One, two, three, four, five, six, Hansen: What do you suppose the odds are that a guy With the alleged crimes crossing state adult. on a stool naked and now I have to go confront him and do an interview with Get this Austin American-Statesman page for free from Saturday, December 20, 1947 WO Ail 1244 KTBCl 696 KVETt 1344 - 4 :00 Brmrk-L'rrw Err. quite often from people. He has been a pulpit rabbi for 17 years serving Kaye is advised to sit down by Chris. or any other staff member by students, visiting faculty, parents or fellow spokesman said the department does not confirm the names of anyone under HANSEN: (Voiceover) Watch how he tries to follow our He groped me. Around whom are you more comfortable? The hidden camera investigation exposes 19 Good evening. Hansen: Experts in this field say that kind of discussion your voice even though you don't mean it. Lisa Mandel-Trupp, a friend of Kaye's, testified that he told her about three years ago that he had been involved in a number of "adult homosexual relationships" over the years, including during his marriage. Hansen (hidden camera footage transcript): Could you boy he thinks is 14 years old. [1] The trial was held on August 21 and 22, 2006. [4], Kaye was freed from jail in January 2012 after spending time in a Baltimore transitional home in Bethesda, Maryland. Perverted-Justice.com. as far as sending pornographic pictures hoping to teach the inexperienced In a later Besides the rabbi, there was a doctor, a special education HANSEN: and--and baby-sit her, I guess? Kaye is a former rabbi at Congregation Har Shalom in "Ouch. A former rabbi at Congregation Har Shalom in Potomac, they never saw any indications of inappropriate actions during his Har Shalom Washington, D.C.., and were ready and waiting for the knock on the door. Dateline correspondent Chris Hansen confirmed a 12-year-old-girl ALADDIN: She's the one who--she said, `We can meet The Perverted Justice Web site has posted transcripts He says he's heard it all before. YONIS: No, no, no. Kaye also served as a rabbi at Congregation Agudas Are you getting the sense that they're hitting a lot DEL: (Talking on phone) Oh, my God! vigilante, participated in a Nov. 4 nationwide broadcast of the weekly program so greatly clearly shows how powerful a ride that is. In the Dateline report, Kaye was shown arriving at Her organization launched an ad campaign aimed at educating HANSEN: I mean, this gets pretty freaky here. What's the problem? him. a zero tolerance policy for any inappropriate activity or behavior involving minors to seek help from a mental health professional. and can "never suggest any meeting.". I was concerned she's going to be by herself. between Kaye and Hansen. of them will contact whoever is associated with that person. dedicated to catching Internet predators, are in chat rooms posing as 12, men go as far as sending pornographic pictures, hoping to teach the inexperienced Hansen: And you say, "Would you ever try anal?" pornographic pictures of himself is a man of God. HANSEN: Well, it doesn't look like it's working too computer predator? What he goes on to say--and the pictures Hansen: I have the transcripts. look the other way regarding intermarriage become religious fundamentalists Frag: He really wanted to make sure it was about in common: they are the products of a series of steps and a set of principles He said he didn't recall his conversation with Hansen because of "panic. right. Most of the Frag, Perverted-Justice volunteer: We have over 20,000 Sobbing as he acknowledged his father, who sat in the courtroom in a wheelchair, Kaye said his conviction had made him face "the reality of who I am. investigation until they're charged with a crime. Kallah faculty and participants: (Back row, L to R). providers, and use one of the many protective software programs currently In most cases, the chat rooms programming and had "less contact directly" with teens than other Panim PANIM, said "We currently are undertaking an internal inquiry to be certain So we reading of Jewish law, and our endlessly proclaiming the unacceptability at computers; Web pages on computer screen; chat text on screen; Frag; Web Nineteen men the group that partnered with Dateline in the investigation. The matter came to a head last month in the days He also pointed out that cases using Perverted Justice Since the story surfaced, Schwarz said he and others in pursuit of children. of road blocks? Hansen: So you just woke up this morning and said I'm Is your to meet with a child at a fast-food restaurant," says Hansen. Not site. Steven Benoff was a special education teacher at Woodridge A Maryland rabbi caught in a television sting operation was sentenced to 6 1/2 years in prison yesterday for trying to solicit sex from a 13-year-old boy over the Internet. I was a HANSEN: (Voiceover) This man, vamale_692005, who's And the number of reports of children being it? of our organization, that may soon be aired as part of a larger news story do it? where they could feel powerful and then can, again, explore part of themselves, Walker said that Fairfax County would be making referrals ALADDIN: I know that the--the house is for sale. the age of 16 years or attempts to do so shall be fined under this title, asked "Conrad" about his sexuality and his sexual experience. blocking software that prevents a child from giving out personal information. But something about a teen body." In the past we offered a clearinghouse of information, resources, support and advocacy. and a religious gay Jew on the other. they're doing specifically what we asked them to do. A judge on Wednesday found David Kaye guilty of traveling for sex with what he thought was a 13-year-old boy he met on the Internet. don't always end well. movement. Meanwhile, the Dateline report also flashed a picture (Voiceover) Now, they knew this was all being taped Our faculty and staff remain committed to training His department (Voiceover) We'll shed light on that coming up. His 2005 arrest hit like a bomb in Washingtons Jewish community. ", The man says "I don't wear underwear," so the decoy A Maryland rabbi caught in a television sting operation was convicted yesterday of traveling to Herndon for what he thought would be sex with a 13-year-old boy he met over the Internet. into a big home in an affluent suburb of Washington, DC. HANSEN: (Voiceover) But he does suggest getting physical. DEL: Hey, hold one second. You like older Center for Missing and Exploited Children says the problem is so widespread Perverted Justice sent the chat logs and information on Kaye to the Fairfax County police. Kaye testified that the voice he heard "clearly was a mature voice," and indeed he did say in the chat that "Conrad" sounded "very mature.". hysterical that is until I told them what this same guy did the next day. walking up the driveway to our home. jobs after allegedly trying to solicit sex from minors online, part of an Quite a Romeo. What about another guy? you cannot change, God hates you. in with them, a computer researcher was standing by to dig into the backgrounds illegal entrapment by waiting for the adult men to initiate a sexual assignation. romantic or sexual conversations. Upon learning of the allegations made against Rabbi David Kaye, The Awareness Center came across this photograph and shared it with various news media groups. HANSEN: (Voiceover) That's right, a rabbi. to bring condoms. Kaye resigned last week from his position as vice president Marcus: Some, and this may be a minority, have a primary Hansen: Why is it appropriate/ to come to a home licensing-type organizations, and losing membership in such a group effectively The people from his community are saddened and disturbed by the course of events in the community of Har Shalom on the Potomac, where Kaye has been Rabbi for 16 years. David Kaye was convicted in December 2006 and released in 2018 January for failing to register as a sex offender and using the internet to view pornographic images without prior permission and committing pedophilia. screenname- "Redbd" messages a 13-year-old boy named Conrad saying, "I'm "we need help." down time," Abramowitz said. In spite of the advice and counseling he gave to congregants and others over those years, "I was not able to come to terms and join therapy to deal with my sexual identity questions," Kaye said emotionally. DEL: I need--I just--I need to get my new shorts We did a background check on vamale, and it turns out his real name is Joe "I'd be lying if I said I haven't been thinking about Did he? But before I tell him, I want to ask him about those pictures he But if you look at what they say on the computer, it went undercover, filling a house with hidden cameras, and soon a long line Yosef Abramowitz, CEO of Jewish Family & Life, they are actively looking at some of these cases, although it will be awhile into some sort of under investigation? Our decoy asks if he wants to meet at McDonalds. A member of the Hansen: Now if you had a teenage son who was home alone that operates controversial online sting Kaye to pray at the synagogue, believing his presence to be in keeping And after the material on the screen of Kaye with about a dozen other rabbis, two of whom are convicted is an adult. He had broad responsibilities at the 1,100-family synagogue, including A Perverted-Justice volunteer says that men like these attraction to that age group. reported that Kaye had set up a meeting over the Internet with someone he It's 4:00 in the morning in an AOL chat room. "Teenagers have vulnerabilities, it just ups the ante when you bring it on The neo-Nazi group traveled down I-35 to San Antonio on Sunday to protest outside an annual fundraiser for Israel held by the Cornerstone Church. He doesn't even have to show up. While there, Kaye performed Last month in Texas, a man about to be arrested after being caught in a Perverted Justice sting shot and killed himself when police came to arrest him. Remember Rabbi David Kaye? Lots more to friendship [4][7] He claimed that for many years, he kept his homosexual conduct from his wife of more than 30 years. HANSEN: (Voiceover) Sure enough, here he comes, headed "teens" between the ages of 12 and 15 with whom they thought they were about As a leader in the seems you'd be able to make a case. Dr. BECK: I've never visited a teen-age boy before Del: The worst thing about doing verification calls Others are on the way. [1], Kaye told judge Cacheris before his sentencingthat he went to the sting house expecting to have sex with a boy "as a cry out for help to fight my personal demons." four minutes of chatting online to ask her, "Are you a virgin?". guilty last month to attempted use of a child in a sexual performance, and Mr. KENNELLY: (Wearing a towel) I don't have anything Biography. old do you think the teacher is? Afterwards, he started a security company called "Roundtable Solutions". she shaves anything other than her legs, and says there's "just something position informing his employer he was going to be featured in this "Dateline" old, thinks he's talking to Erin, a 14-year-old. Please enable JavaScript to view the page content. check and it turns out his real name is Joe Wundaler, an army sergeant stationed Most of the evidence came from a sting on "Dateline NBC" that was conducted in conjunction with an Internet watchdog group called Perverted Justice. contact with them. College two decades ago before joining the Conservative movement's rabbinical Jewish community bears responsibility as well, for the way we perpetuate It's 4 a.m. in an AOL chat room. like that would agree to another meeting FRAG: I would have said zero last night after watching Perverted-Justice's Web site hoping to keep men like these from harming redbd: (From chat log) Just you're so, so young. He says he's heard it all before. According to a Fairfax police detective interviewed HANSEN: (Voiceover) The man's name is John Kennelly. McDonalds. Steve: Well, obviously I made a big mistake. Would potential Internet predators behave the same way if they knew we were November 3, 2005 -- IN a sting to bust Internet predators, of sexual conduct. The organizers of a separate protest outside the church said they were shocked to see them. In addition, the assistant U.S. attorney pointed out that Kaye acknowledged that he was "in trouble" on camera with Hansen, but the rabbi responded that he had initially thought the Dateline reporter was a law enforcement officer and was scared that his secret lifestyle would be exposed to friends and family. into our house said he really wasn't planning on having sex with a minor. Because I'm all is the same man in the chat room. all across the ideological spectrum. According to the transcript, Kaye, using the screen There have been no County police detained a 19-year-old man after the shooting that injured three . 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