The numbers level out when it comes to religions those. The Holy Roman Empire I grew up in NYC with this popular myth engrained on my conciousness. I grew up in a so-called Protestant area in west County Down where nobody really cares what you are. The waitress stared at me, and said in her thick brogue, This is an IRISH pub. I looked at her and said, okay, Ill have a Harp. Here in Montana, that conversation wouldnt have made any sense. If they do in fact have a Catholic Master Distiller, he is probably just the token worker. That was in fact untrue. In April I went to Jerusalem. And to those who dont know, that hint of bourbon flavor comes from the fact that Jamesons is aged in used American bourbon barrels as are most Irish whiskeys. It may not be factual, verified, or correct, but definitely true. Not sure if it is available outside of Ireland, but if you can, get a hold of a bottle. [15], More recently, in 2015, Powers Signature Release won a gold medal in the category Irish Single Pot Still Whiskey at the Irish Whiskey Awards. Believe in the Trinity of God. To comment on a few posts above: I am of Irish descent and remember hearing the Protestant Whiskey comments as a kid growing up in New England(I am 50 now). Catholic and Slovak-American, my personal preference is Jamesons. Not what I would call a cheap whisley, albeit there are many out there that can cost a fair penny more. DONT EVER ask an Irish person , north or south if they are catholic or protestant because they will look at you with contempt. Nuts. Im not sure if this is truth or myth but I cannot drink Bushmills due to there even being a chance of truth in that because of the awful stories I heard about those F&[emailprotected]$&$ convicts (the black and tans) the Brits let loose on the people of Ireland. Thanks, Mike. As the rain pummels the ground here in the Pacific Northwest, a little window of blue sky nestled between two dark clouds in the neighboring distance makes me wish I were watching the rain fall from across a dark ocean, my little Caribbean fishing, Update! linseed oil is used on its own or blended with other drying oils, resins and solvents as an impregnator and varnish in wood finishing, as a pigment binder in oil paints, as a plasticizer and hardener in putty and in the manufacture of linoleum. from wikipedia, Michael Jackson Well Kentucky used to be part of the state of Virginia, but that doesnt mean you blame the whiskey for something that happened in that state. Sectarianism in Glasgow takes the form of long-standing religious and political sectarian rivalry between Catholics and Protestants.It is particularly reinforced by the fierce rivalry between Celtic F.C. Produced at Cooley for Sidney Frank, it appears to have been geared mainly for the American market. What can one expect from people who prefer grappa to the true Water of Life? Memories. It is the oldest licensed distillery by 200 years and was once owned by a Belfast barman who get this was a teetotaller and secretly wrote religous tracts damning the Demon Drink! stupid fucks In response, Guzzi This bill . [3], As the distillery grew, so too did the stature of the family. Dear sir, I know you did a bit onSangrita, but I was wondering if you have a good recipe for Sangria. Not sure this is the right spot, but an Irish colleague and I, had this debate last week around Bushmills v Jameson in an Irish pub, here in New York. The cheap Evan Williams Black Label at half the price (in the USA)has more taste and more of a kick. lol. It is calles an ORANGEMANhas nothing to do with Syracuse University. But generally, if you like it sweet, you like Jamesons products (including Redbreast, 1780, and Powers) If you like it dry, youll prefer the Busmills lineup. And, many thanks to (nearly) all of those who offered comments. And I obviously know alot about it being from Ireland and the horrific scenes of the troubles. However, ownership remained in the family until 1966, and several descendants of his sisters remained at work with the company until recent times. But I must say my absolute preference is Jameson 18 yr old. Nevermind the fact that it would be illegal in UK law. Oh, by the way, John Jameson was a protestant Scottish planter in Ireland, so shouldnt you be boycotting his whiskey also? Porn S, Eugene, Oregon friends! Enjoy your whiskey and spare a kind word for everyone. However, this is just a rumor, but I did hear it from a pretty reliable source in the industry back in Ireland. Catholic powers praised the killings, and the French Protestant cause saw a wave of exile and conversions. Personal life experience. However, its all moot now as the French reap the profits in the end , Jameson, Bushmills, Tullemore, Red Breast, Powers. Bushmills was my first taste of Irish Whiskey. He was anti-Republican and his family was instrumental in organising the Orange Order in Dublin! And as our clan motto states commit thy work to god. Delicious! I even have taken a liking to Bushmills Irish Honey when Im in a cocktail mood.Not being Irish and not wanting to get political. As of 2016, Paddy is the fourth largest-selling Irish whiskey in the World. Powers is a brand of Irish whiskey. Hi, I actually know the reason behind the controversy. Wow, not one mention of Tullamore Dew. When I explained this myth to customers in Ireland they all had a good laugh. So, so stupid. The Roman Catholic Church responded to the Protestant challenge by purging itself of the abuses and ambiguities that had opened the way to revolt . Literal Meaning. He said he was going to spend 90% of it on women and Irish whiskey and the other 10% he was going to waste! I just brought some Tyrconnell 10-year port cask aged home from duty free it is delicious. A fair amount of nonsense in some of these replies. Assertive and complex, with lots of development and seemingly infinite dimension. Hi and i take my hat off to Rob Mchardy answer 34..more people should be like you and the world would be a nicer place,anyway there is only one kind of whisky,the answer is in the spelling. . I am not trying to be offensive here, but really, it is just so dumb. Im an Irish barman and I am stunned by the ignorant waffle that some Irish Americans spew about the oul sod. The last member of the family to sit on the board was Sir Thomas Talbot Power,[8] who died in 1930,[10] and with him the Power's Baronetcy. Such crap why are all these experts so called Irishmen living in US. Distilling of locally grown agricultural to produce alcohol is something that is not peculiar to Ireland. Up here in Canada (BC) its quite difficult to find. You may see the Co. Offaly whiskey grow even more now that William Grant & Sons owns it, and will be building the new distillery soon. Polarised. Such days are long over, and Dew is rapidly making up the difference in sales, and has already overtaken Jamison in may countries in Europe. Peter Knox hit the nail on the head in #103 & Hey Bartender is right, giving a crap about what religion founded a whiskeys distillery is about as authentically Irish as corned beefFYI: not a single Irish person I spoke to knew had ever heard of corned beef, it wasnt in the grocery stores & certainly not on any menus. Every time you raise a glass of Bushmills you are in essence raising a glass to an Irishman losing his land (and in some cases his life) to British rule!! Jamesons one-time MD (CEO in the USA) was Andrew Jameson. It is about the spirit in the bottle, not in a church. And while the distillery had a larger proportion of Protestants than Catholics, this was down to the demographics of the area in which the town of Bushmills is situated which is largely a protestant area and the employment status reflects that. Required fields are marked *. My wife has just blown raspberries on my belly whilst Ive been reading this crap seriously it doesnt matter which type of sky fairy you believe in bushmills black label vs tulamore dew is a close run thing and depends on how and what mood youre in rather that some stupid pagan affiliation. Your email address will not be published. Theyve also started work on a massive bottling plant on site to bring all areas of Dew production back to the town. Who really cares. If you ever try a more exclusive blend or a single malt, dont dare poison it with ginger ale . Didnt think I liked any kind of whiskey until last week when I asked our waitress at Murrays to bring me something Irishshe brought me Jamesons on the rocks along w/ a small bottle of ginger ale & a lime. [12] However, with many of the Irish distilleries having closed in the early 20th century in part due to their failure to embrace a change in consumer preference towards blended whiskey, Powers were instrumental in convincing the remaining Irish distilleries to reconsider their stance on blended whiskey.[8]. Rabble Rouser, Bushmills is not total UFV (sic) territory in the slightest. @Matt: sorry to hear about religious intolerance in West Virginia but this is a discussion about the distilling history of Irish whiskey, not moonshine. I can see you have been horribly scared by the conflict. Happy St Pattys Day. When it comes to what crosses my lips I guess I am an agnostic. I was born in West Belfast and I can tell you, that most Catholics prefer Jamesons. I went to the Distillery in Tullamore(now a museum for the whiskey), it is now produced in Middleton, although it is no longer owned by Pernod-Ricard. In addition to Powers Gold label, a 12-year-old premium blend, and several single pot still whiskeys have been released under the Powers banner in recent years: In the 2012 edition of the Whisky Bible, whiskey writer Jim Murray named Power's John's Lane Release Irish Whiskey of the Year and described it as "certainly one of the top five world whiskies of the year". In the tv show The Wire McNulty made a comment about not drinking that fucking Protesant whiskey when asked by Bunk why he always drank Jamesons. I got into Powers through my wife, ans she learned of it from Shane MacGowan(s music). The truth of the matter is, the age-old faux-pas of ordering Bushmills for fear of supporting English aggression and offending the Republic of Ireland is about as Irish as corned beef which is to say, not very Irish at all but rather Irish-American (Sorry, kids, corned beef is a Jewish invention). Funny how these things work out, innit? Redbreast is my favorite but I only buy a bottle or so a year. The word "catholic" means "all-embracing," and the Catholic Church sees itself as the only . @Allen: I think it show more the bigoted nature of your tour guide than it does Bushmills. Being RC from Ulster, Ive had Jameson (and other Cork products) in plenty of Prod pubs (whether in Belfast or elsewhere) and plenty of Bushmills in RC pubs (whether in Dublin or in staunch republican areas of Cork, Kerry, and elsewhere), and never been hassled over it. Those of us that still drink enjoy guinness as our beer Any particular reason why in 1998-1999 Bushmills would have distilled of at least bottle up for Jameson ????? Whiskey takes no sides and is drank by all Catholic, Protestant, Hebrew, Atheist, etc. [1] Irish Distillers owned the brand until its sale to Sazerac in 2016. There were licenses to distill granted in and around the Bushmills area in 1608. In my opinion, its one of the blandest, albeit smoothest, whiskeys Ive tasted. Now, go have some grappa with an espresso this evening. While were tossing around personal stories, about 20 years ago I met some younger guys from Glasgow at a local pub, and I mentioned how I knew that neither Scotland nor Ireland were altogether warm with England, but I didnt know how the Irish and Scots felt about each other. TRIPLE SEC, 2 shots of BUSHMILLS, None of that means shit. The full like of Bushmills (and a couple of other Irish whiskeys) will be available for sampling at Whiskies of the World on March 27th. Apparently it is, or was, a thing among certain Irish-Americans to signal their genuine Irishness by refusing Bushmills and drinking Jameson, supposedly the whiskey of Catholics and supporters of the Republic of Ireland. Ive been a big fan of Jamesons for many years, first drinking it when I was younger. Mostly only Catholics or the nonreligious drink here. 1996 in coal harbour Vancouver BC. I am Catholic and Slovak and do not care what the British have done to the Irish. Sorry, but I have always loved them both. @Eamonn: always good to hear from a Dubliner. Ireland is %110 united in whiskey. The spelling of whisk(e)y is actually a bit up in the air as far as that pesky e goes. I am going to be the bartender at my college prom, and need a drink that will be popular with the kids. Several years ago, I worked in Bulgaria and a couple of other Balkan republics; and found to my surprise that Irish Whiskey is somewhat popular there, though far outpaced by the ubiquitous Balkan hard liquors Rakija and Mastika. I can guarantee no one here in Dublin or Ireland gives a crap either way. Ian Paisley MP, Euro MP and MLA; universally known Doctor No. It is all quite harmonious between the distilleries. I had the 15yr old Kilbeggan during a visit at the Cooley distillery a few years back, and it was damn tasty. The Catholic and Protestant Reformations established long-lasting effects within the religious world. and Rangers F.C., the two largest Scottish football clubs sometimes referred to as the Old Firm, whose support base is traditionally predominantly Catholic and Protestant respectively. Historically a single pot still whiskey, the flagship Powers Gold Label brand was the first Irish whiskey ever to be bottled. (Ref. 17-18 years old found the love of my lifea catholic girl. As regards the Catholic v Protestant whiskey debate. Raised going to church every goddamned Sunday. Jesus, Mary and Joseph! A Mac computer geek thats too young to retire and too old for male prostitution. If it was a genuine issue then bars wouldnt serve both. No coffee or anything green. As for those Tyrconnell expressions: major thumbs up. I often wonder why those Irish-Americans (usually in Irish bars of Boston or New York)who bring up this absurd and frankly bigoted discussion about Protestant & Catholic whiskey do not apply the same rule when it comes to drinking that most Irish of drinks Guinness. This is excellent. Protestant whiskey is typically made in Northern Ireland, while Catholic whiskey is made in the Republic of Ireland. Entries are still open for the 2023 San Fr, This weekend, we hiked to the site of a natural ca, Valentines Day. Delicious, soothing, contemplative. I must say I enjoyed reading this thread, and I had no intention of posting until I reached #58. What is the lore and legend and reputation of Tullamore Dew? The widely-accepted Irish-American version is that Jameson is Catholic whiskey and Bushmills is Protestant whiskey. As for the religious differences, its always been easier for those not in the mess (in the US, England) to say and perpetuate things over that of those who have to suffer the views and manipulations of outsiders. One more thing Since Pernod Ricard shut down the grain stills at the old Bushmills distillery, all of the grain whiskey in Bushmills is from Middleton! Is Jameson Protestant whiskey? This is coming from a protestant raised irish man from the local area. As the Protestants had pretty much a stranglehold over all shipping in the country, they refused to ship Dew in favor of the Protestant-produced Jameson. Ginger cake, brazil nuts, treacle And a true story: as a young Dublin barman I was confounded by a true-blue Dubliner who asked for a large Shirley Bassey. Ive lost members of my family to the IRA in THIS generation. Prom_STar 9 yr. ago Still love it. Parents did their best to kill thatand they did. Thats where I paused it and jumped on to google to figure out exactly what neat meant, which lead me to this article of yours: https://jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/up-neat-straight-up-or-on-the-rocks/. The Master Distiller, Colum Eagan, is indeed a Catholic himself and comes from Co. Laois in ROI. The 1608 license is not marketing shite, but did refer to the area of the town of Bushmills. 2. To inject religion into the discussion demeans the very simple fact that whiskey has no religion despite the understandable biases of the past. The Protestant Reformation was a religious, social, economic, and political revolution that was sparked when a Catholic monk named Martin Luther nailed his 95 Theses to the door of his local . Spose its kinda like Rangers (hoik-phew) and Celtic FC really. Went on the Bushmills tour in November 2015. Currently, I go though a case of Jameson for every bottle of Bushmills that we sell at our bar. Im leaving this post up as an archive, but I encourage you to read that article first, and if you, As far as Im concerned, springtime is Dark and Stormy season. Corvallisbarman is half right. And I was not drunk !!! Im not surprised this thread is still going strong. All Irish whiskey is great. I come from the border and powers was the biggest seller by ten to one over any other whiskey,jemmy was next ,bush mills was not even on the optics and it was all about their hiring practices of workers and not the religion of their owners, @jen My post was simple stating that the problem still exists. The fact is that Jameson is the Catholic whiskey and Bushmills is the Protestant whiskey and this is according to people I know That live in Belfast. Clean, fresh. Yes, plenty of Irish whiskey is ordered as shots or in Pickle Backs, but it also works in a number of cocktails, including, of course, McGarry's The Dead Rabbit Irish Coffee. Multi-national corporations, of course, know no religious or other loyalty, except to the almighty dollar/pound/Euro. The most traumatic era in the entire history of Roman Catholicism, some have argued, was the period from the middle of the 14th century to the middle of the 16th. Bushmills is produced from 100% malted barley and grain whiskey (which it receives from the Midleton Distillery in Co. Cork where Jameson is made). Yep, he was referring to a certain product from Bushmills.. I can just say Cheers! I am for Bushmills especially sprinkled over banana bread. These ideas still run deep and there are still a lot of untrue things people believe about Catholics. Right now Redbreast, Bushmills 10yr Single malt ( drinking neat as I type), Jameson and Michael Collins Blend. Thank you for the real-world experience! I will second the Powers recommendation to add some turf to the fire. Im also a bit confused on the cheap part. [8] After expansion, output at the distillery rose to 700,000 gallons per annum, and by the 1880s, had reached about 900,000 gallons per annum, at which point the distillery covered over six acres of central Dublin, and had a staff of about 300 people.[3][1]. Father Urban has succeeded as a business operator on behalf of his monastic . Now this character I met at the bar is trying to tell me its the other way around. So, which Irish whiskey is Catholic? My growing up yearsnot virulently anti catholic just plain anti-catholic. I am also a fan of Tullemore and Black Bush. I see. Enough said I thought, and bought the next round. 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